Speaker 0: physicists just filmed darkness outrunning light, and einstein isn't even mad about it. we finally caught optical whirlpools hitting superluminal speeds on cameras proving that while the speed of light is a limit for matter, the geometry of shadows plays by its own rules. so darkness breaks the light barrier. scientists at technion used an ultrafast electron microscope to film optical vortices, tiny dark holes inside light beams accelerating past the speed of light right before they collide and vanish. this confirms a fifty year old theory and gives us a quantum slow motion camera to design next gen semiconductors and a ultra stable quantum computers. what's going on here, john? Speaker 1: yeah. i think this is cool. so, like yeah. let's just dive in. so the researchers observed these phase singularities, and they're also calling them optical vortices. and, they're points inside a light wave where the intensity drops to zero. so put simply, they're tiny pockets of complete darkness embedded within light. and so, like, your picture shows, these structures behave like whirlpools of flowing in a flowing river. just in this as an eddy can move faster than the surrounding water, these dark points can move faster than the light waves they exist within. and the reason being so let's dive into this just a little bit. so einstein's relativity, it forbids matter, energy, or information from exceeding the speed of light. these dark points, they carry none of these. they're purely geometric features of a wave. they're not physical objects. so while the pattern moves faster than light, nothing physical is actually traveling faster than light. so this is similar to a laser dot sweeping across the moon faster than light, a shadow moving faster than light. and in both cases, nothing physical is moving that fast, only a projection or a pattern. so the way they observe this was, so this phenomenon, like you said, was predicted in the seventies. but, obviously, it's extremely hard to measure because it happens at tiny spatial and temporal scales. so the way they did this was they used events at electron mic microscopy, high resolution laser and optomechanical systems. and then they had the ability to track light structures at ultra small scales in real time, which allowed them to directly observe these dark vortices. like, i guess the question is, what's actually moving faster than light? it's not light. it's not particles. it's not energy. it's a zero point in the wave. so it's a location where light cancels itself out, which is fundamentally a topological feature of the wave, like a hole in a fabric, but not the fabric itself, if that makes sense, which i think is kinda cool. what do you think about this? Speaker 0: well, i like to think of this like a pair of scissors. you can close the blades at normal speed, but the point where the blades meet, the intersection, travels down the length of the metal much faster than your hands are moving. so in this experiment, the light waves are the blades and the dark vortex is that intersection. no physical atom is breaking the speed of light, limit. it's the shape of darkness that's racing ahead. yeah. so this was an experimental breakthrough, that was achieved this month in april 2026, just in case this comes out in may or june. and they're expecting to scale this industrial to megawatt arrays in the current pilot phases. so from the, 56 megawatt electron microscope they had to use to, take these pictures. Speaker 1: yeah. i think it's i think it's cool. yeah. the thing is we're not saying that darkness isn't a thing. right? it's the absence of light. so what's really moving is a point of destruction interference, which is kinda cool. so, the cool thing is that it reinforces a growing theme in modern physics that reality is increasingly understood as wave structures and information patterns, not just particles. and why does this matter? well, this ties into quantum field theory, photonics, and even emerging quantum computing architectures. so it's less of a revolution and more of a confirmation, if that makes sense. Speaker 0: absolutely. the electron microscopy market is currently worth, valued at 5,350,000,000 and climbing. so this is gonna be interesting, thing in the future. and the temporal resolution of the three femtoseconds is three to the, by 10 to the fifteenth power second. so it's, you know, incredibly fast. and light was slowed by a factor of a 100 times within the material used to do the shooting here. so they slowed down light, use this incredible, camera to take these pictures. and hexagonal boron nitride is often called the white graphene because it has the same hexagonal atomic structure as graphene, but acts as an insulator rather than a conductor. yeah. the three femo, femtosecond shutter speed is so fast that even light only travels about one micrometer, the size of a single bacterium during one frame. and mathematical laws governing these optical whirlpools are identical to the physics of eddies or the ways, superconductors move magnetic fields. it's a universal law of waves, that's now been captured in the lab. Speaker 1: yeah. so, like, i guess what this discovery really shows is that the speed of light, it's a limit on reality, not on patterns. and sometimes the absence of something can behave more strangely than the actual thing itself. so, this isn't anything that's like, okay, guys. so now that they've discovered this, this and this and this is gonna happen. no. this is more just like a confirmation. right? Speaker 0: yeah. and the term superluminal, is technically accurate but functionally limited since these vortices carry zero mass or energy. we still can't use them to send anything, like text messages past. it's just, you know, in name only as it were. yeah. so we've officially graduated from guessing how the quantum world moves to watching it in four k at a trillion frames per second. if we eventually find a way to move actual information faster than light, would you use it to fix a stock market or finally win an argument in a reddit thread in real time? let us know in the chat how you would use this, power to send stuff back to you in time if you could use something like this.