Speaker 0:  so elon had a lot of fun this week catching, rockets.

Speaker 1:  yeah. so, for those of you that don't know, how big of an achievement this is, this is, like, huge. huge. i would say it's bigger than the we robot event because the engineering needed in order for spacex to launch a rocket and then catch it with the chopsticks is, like, i can't even fathom the difficulty. and i understand engineering somewhat. right? but, like, it's nuts. absolutely nuts.

Speaker 0:  first time it's been done ever. yeah. and it's an incredible accomplishment. you know, spacex is moving faster than almost any of the other companies, at least publicly, that we're aware of. no one else has, got anywhere near the publicity they do. no. and, you know they're

Speaker 1:  doing it right though too. like, they are what nasa used to be.

Speaker 0:  yeah. and, you know, as a private company, you know, they're iterating fast, and they're figuring things out and breaking new ground. like, i'm starting to believe that, you know, the mars thing's gonna happen, maybe not quite in elon's timeline. but you start to see this stuff, and the plan next time is to catch, like, the whole thing. right?

Speaker 1:  yeah. my question is, though. right? they're gonna have to build that on mars first. and, obviously, the gravity is gonna be different, so they're gonna have to do all those different calculations. but they're gonna need to build those chopsticks on mars first, so they're gonna have to

Speaker 0:  not necessarily. like, the first time you prob what'll probably happen is, you'll you'll build a space, station outside of mars. yeah. so you got a refueling station. you got all that kind of stuff there so the rockets can land there. but, also, you just dump people or you have to dump material and all that stuff because they have to have all these things to exist. so the first couple of runs, you don't need this because i don't think, the rocket that's going into space is going down. they might have a module that goes down or landing modules the first few times because and then they will build these on the other end potentially. because you just dock with the space station at this point because the big rockets are gone. so they'll need, you know, refueling and whatever other rockets to be put on there. right? so this is great. but you know, they're talking about the goal is to have these things turn around in an hour.

Speaker 1:  yeah. that you could come

Speaker 0:  land and refuel and go. go ahead. yeah. go on. yeah.

Speaker 1:  i know you have this video on loop. i need people to realize how like, that is straight up like, the way that it gets in between those chopsticks and it's caught, like, it is so accurately i think it's probably exactly perpendicular from the ground. straight up, it looks like. like, how accurate they get. it's crazy. like, it blows me away. i'm kudos to elon and the team at spacex, for sure.

Speaker 0:  yeah. this is an incredible accomplishment. and, you know, while they're doing this, there's been an ongoing feud with basex and the faa about a bunch of stuff. the faa yes. commissioner comes on and says a whole bunch of things, and elon says none of that is true. then it comes out and says another thing, and elon comes out and says none of that is true. and then, you know, while this was happening, the faa was having some big meeting. and did you hear what they were saying? they were saying because of his tweets and his political stances, we don't think we need to slow him down. it's like, what?

Speaker 1:  we don't think we need to slow him down? or we

Speaker 0:  need to they need to slow him down.

Speaker 1:  so, like i think

Speaker 0:  they all need to be replaced. they all need to be gone.

Speaker 1:  i think the faa is too archaic to keep up the the, with the evolution and the innovation that's happening.

Speaker 0:  yeah. they literally said he's too involved with the election, and some of the things he says, you know, we you know, they don't want him doing this. they literally came out and said it. the people that run the faa on this meeting yeah. i was like, okay. they all have to go. like, you know, that's the limitation. so somehow, someone is politically different than you, and you've decided then that their company can't succeed, and they can't be in this business. and this company is the one that's leading the space race in america, so you're deliberately destroying their chance of success to let china and russia and whatever because elon supports a different political party than you, or he supports free speech online? no. but that they both said both things. it was like, okay. yeah. you know, i don't mind you know, obviously, you got rights around environmental, ecological, technical, safety, all the things. but when you go outside that, i start to say, you know, they all need to be gone. they all need to be gone. faa needs to be rebuilt from the ground up. and, you know, maybe elon will have the chance to do this because they're coming out and saying that boeing is better. they've recently rated boeing way better than spacex even though spacex has to go and get their astronauts back. and, you know, it's really becoming a problem. yeah. and it's obviously that they're leaning one way or another. they're anti elon.

Speaker 1:  yeah. and i think one of the biggest reasons though is that their ego is bruised because they're realizing that elon is doing things. obviously, he's going about it the wrong way with the faa, and he's pissed people off. right? so he's not doing things politically right. boeing is obviously paying the faa, and we know this. well, not paying, but we know that there is some corruption there between the faa and boeing.

Speaker 0:  yep.

Speaker 1:  so they have some influence. and so all of that culminates, like i'm not a huge fan of elon's, political views, and and we can we can debate that all day long. everyone has their own political views. we won't get into that. but at the end of the day, he's innovating. he's the one who's moving, humanity forward when it comes to space exploration and a bunch of other things. and i think the faa is just they're they they've realized that they're behind. they don't know how to catch up, and their egos are bruised because elon is pushing boundaries. obviously, he's not following every rule, which we know because he's been fined, but maybe the rules need to be changed.

Speaker 0:  absolutely. maybe the rules need to be changed. elon's a bully. let's face it. i'm not trying to yes. yes.

Speaker 1:  i'm not gonna lie. yeah.

Speaker 0:  yeah. and, you know, my point is it doesn't matter which side of the political fence you're on. this has nothing to do with one has nothing to do with the other. so let's stick with the facts and the science and the progression, not the other stuff because that should have not shouldn't have any bearing, and that's all i'm saying. because we can like the one

Speaker 1:  neil, just ask tyson to chime in on this. because he's a very scientific person. he understands everything. i, like, he's very well respected. i'd love to but never will. but yeah.

Speaker 0:  but you talk about those fines. even them, elon was pro not necessarily protesting, protesting, but he, you know, came back with said, okay. you gave us a fine saying we move closer to people when in fact we move farther away. you said this when in fact we did the study and gave it to you ahead of schedule. you know, all these things, and you're like, okay. but you find us, you know, almost six hundred and eighty thousand or six hundred million dollars. whatever it was, it was a huge fine as far as i'm concerned. i don't know. probably not a huge fine as far as elon is concerned. yeah. and is it relevant? like, this is the whole point. when they come out and they're politically motivated otherwise, you gotta kinda question everything now and say, well, we have no idea. i have no idea what to believe now because you've already came out and said we can't let him succeed because of these things. and, like, oh, well, i guess you need to be gone rather than saying we can't let him succeed because there's a safety issue, because of these, because of this. you now

Speaker 1:  know that. yeah. they yeah. they don't have a leg to stand on

Speaker 0:  with all the people. like yeah. elon's a bully pushing people around. we know that. and yeah. he's all you know? but high level entrepreneurs tell me which one is it. uber went in every city and just started doing it and then just fought the city until they let them do it. they all doing the same thing.

Speaker 1:  speaking of which, there's a great, tv series. i don't know if it's miniseries or what on uber, and it shows you how big of a bully they were. but that's what you need to do to change things because they have these people who have these big egos who refuse to to see that change is good and change is needed and innovation is needed and we need to move forward. like, i'll give you one example that people can relate to. in europe, they've changed the headlight standards for cars. right? they have way better, way safer headlights because europe has has recognized that, yeah, innovation needs to be changed. we are so archaic with our transportation policies and what needs, like, headlights and how they need to be designed and all that sort of stuff. it's so archaic. it's even hurting people nowadays. like, it's horrible. example, and there's an example of every industry with that. sorry. i'm very passionate about this.

Speaker 0:  that's alright. you know, the

Speaker 1:  dinosaurs out of here.

Speaker 0:  i, hundred percent agree. you know? so go to tronostars dot com. take a look at this article. it talks about the amazing stuff with him catching a rocket and why we're using rockets matters and, you know, his mission to innovate and get to mars. and it talks about the feud and early tensions and what specifically happened and the s eight not s n eight high altitude test and its impact and what the controversy is. the impact of the public statements because elon musk has been publicly critical of the faa. so it's all over there. i know we didn't get through all of that, but yeah. it was a good discussion, and it's all over there in toronto starts dot com where you can find this article. you ready to and

Speaker 1:  yeah. just one last thing. we probably won't cover starlink today, but we should in another one. we should do another elon coverage because i think it's, he's he's looking to do, this is fcc now, not faa, but, yeah, we'll maybe cover it in another one. just know, guys, that elon is, he's got an idea for gigabit per second broadband with his starlink.

Speaker 0:  yeah. it looks like he was planning that on that one we're talking about ten times the speed. and, again, i forgot i clicked over the toronto starts dot com article, and you guys didn't see it. so there's a lot of good information over there, so check it out.