Speaker 0:  i don't know

Speaker 1:  if you've been following the starliner stuff, but, after our discussion last last week, might have been the week before, they kinda blur together as the weeks go fast.

Speaker 0:  i think we talked about it two weeks in a row.

Speaker 1:  yeah. that is true. i think we did. so, anyway, since then, there was a creepy sonar like sound coming through star starliner speakers, and it posed a brief mystery on the international space station for a while. and, apparently, it sounded like a sonic ping, and everyone was a little bit worried based on, you know, all the problems yeah. we've been seeing with the starliner. have you looked at this?

Speaker 0:  yeah. was, this is one of those things. there's this tv show i watch called oh, it's over now, called evil where, there's an engineer that's part of the team, and there's always something that can be explained, using engineering or mathematics. right? and so this is one of those where i'm like, yeah. based on the history and based on everything that's happened, there's gotta there had to have been a reason for it. right? like, there had to have been a cause. it would have been scary if there wasn't, but, but, yeah, this just goes to show. i think they determined that it was caused by feedback from the audio system and the iss. but, scary being up in space and hearing a sonar ping for sure. but the other thing too to think about is like, there's other countries who are up in space too. so, it could have been at like, if we didn't know, it could have been caused by, by china, by russia, by anyone. right?

Speaker 1:  but anybody could have been, you know, using some sort of detection or space sonar if that's the kind of thing people do. again, i don't know how well sound travels in a vacuum. so

Speaker 0:  yeah. well, it must travel very well if there's no, resistance. right? but it is a vacuum. so how well does sound travel in space?

Speaker 1:  that's a good question. i'll get that answered while, we continue. yeah. so with all the issues they've had with starliner, with it yeah. the thrusters not working, the wiring, the weird smells, the stuff just not responding the way they want, the fact that they, had to pull the astronauts off it because they weren't returning to earth because it wasn't flight, human flight worthy.

Speaker 0:  yeah. it did land yesterday, i think, or today, this morning.

Speaker 1:  last night, early this morning, i was watching a bit of it land, and it looked like everything was successful there.

Speaker 0:  okay. so they would have survived probably, but, hey, don't wanna take that chance. right?

Speaker 1:  yeah. and so with all that going on, when something like this happens and they're getting this weird noise, creepy, creepy noise, specifically called this eerie, creepy noise.

Speaker 0:  yeah.

Speaker 1:  yeah. everyone got paranoid for a bit, but it was resolved. you are right. the sound was caused by auto feedback between boeing starliner and the, international space station's communication system. nasa confirmed that it was a harmless technical glitch and posed no danger to the spacecraft astronauts. the sound was quickly resolved and had no impact on the mission.

Speaker 0:  but yeah.

Speaker 1:  this did happen among other things. and when you start seeing it, when the article first appears, you're like, well, you know, what else is happening?

Speaker 0:  yeah. what else is happening that they're not seeing? right? yeah. but, i was completely wrong, and i blame movies for this. but does not travel at all in space because it requires a medium such as air, water, or, like, a solid substance to carry the vibrations.

Speaker 1:  so what i was thinking.

Speaker 0:  yeah. yeah. yeah. i was totally wrong about it. there are some movies that do get it right now. i think the new star treks, got it right when it came to when they were out in the vacuum of space with the explosions and things. but, back to this, though. scary that the things just keep going wrong. and the other thing too is the iss is old. i think it's past its life expectancy as well. i could be wrong. but

Speaker 1:  the start the iss?

Speaker 0:  yeah.

Speaker 1:  it was launched in nineteen ninety eight, making it over twenty five years old.

Speaker 0:  yeah. but how long was it expected to be up there? it was expected to operate until twenty twenty. so it's past its life expectancy. and now they've extended it to twenty thirty. so but who's been enrolled in that extension? is it boeing? and if it's boeing, then good luck for that twenty thirty.

Speaker 1:  yeah. and they've been upgrade adding modules for a while. so, like, the first module was zarya, which was up there in nineteen ninety eight.

Speaker 0:  mhmm.

Speaker 1:  and since then, other countries and whatnot have, joined the project. so it's bigger than it was, and maybe as a whole, it was meant to come down or maybe just the zarya model module was not meant to last as long.

Speaker 0:  oh, maybe. yeah. but, but, again, when we think about, what parts are boeing built and what parts are boeing built in the last ten, fifteen years, and what nasa should just do a deep check into all of that stuff. right?

Speaker 1:  well, hopefully, they need to quali this whole thing with the starliner will, make them double check quality throughout everything.

Speaker 0:  yeah. and i mean nasa, not boeing because we all know boeing's not gonna learn their lesson. so

Speaker 1:  well, i mean, the thing is the government needs to learn their lesson and, you know, stop outsourcing this stuff to companies that, you know, are it's not in their best interest to, push back as hard on themselves.

Speaker 0:  yeah. exactly. but, it like, i could only imagine those, astronauts being up there hearing that sound and not knowing, and and for the time of not knowing how scary that would be.

Speaker 1:  yeah. there's a great summary article on startups, or toronto starts dot com, the mystery behind the starliner's creepy sound. i did a little deep dive, and that's where the podcast will be on this. so definitely check that out. alright. it's a great article. and we'll keep on top of this and what's gonna happen with the dragon modules and stuff and, when the astronauts are coming home.

Speaker 0:  yeah. for sure.